{"id":1259294,"date":"2025-07-12T11:24:01","date_gmt":"2025-07-12T08:24:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/bullshit-from-the-us-what-the-rubio-lavrov-meeting-means-for-ukraine\/"},"modified":"2025-07-17T07:16:08","modified_gmt":"2025-07-17T04:16:08","slug":"bullshit-from-the-us-what-the-rubio-lavrov-meeting-means-for-ukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/bullshit-from-the-us-what-the-rubio-lavrov-meeting-means-for-ukraine\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Bullshit\u2019 from the US: What the Rubio-Lavrov Meeting Really Means for Ukraine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Source: Author&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/aleksej.golobuckij\/posts\/pfbid02gu6o6G8Eqymp2jCzWtqX7QFGcF9zcBEijp2q67Kfs2vG8B2FKTBB9gBMQVzbkDREl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Facebook<\/a> page<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>At the Kuala Lumpur meeting between the US Secretary of State and Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov, the Kremlin failed to sway Rubio or capture his interest.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"658\">The Kremlin tried to create the impression among all concerned that after Putin&#8217;s &#8220;bullshit,&#8221; Lavrov had come up with some new and very good proposals\u2014something completely different from what had been voiced so far. However, it failed to make any impact. Rubio\u2019s assessment of these &#8220;new ideas&#8221; was openly mocking, filled with hesitant qualifiers like &#8220;probably,&#8221; &#8220;maybe,&#8221; and &#8220;I wouldn\u2019t,&#8221; conveying sharp sarcasm: &#8220;Yes, you could probably say that this is a new and perhaps different approach. Again, I wouldn\u2019t call it a guarantee of peace, but it\u2019s a concept that we will certainly discuss with the president today, as soon as I finish our conversation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"660\" data-end=\"823\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Ultimately, Rubio skillfully transformed the familiar Trumpian \u201cbullshit\u201d into three cleverly crafted phrases, stretching its meaning without adding any substance.<\/p>\n\t\t<aside class=\"shortcode-also\" data-title=\"Read also\" >\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/irritated-trump-why-putin-jumped-out-of-the-window-of-opportunity\/\">Irritated Trump: Why Putin Jumped Out of the Window of Opportunity<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\n<h6 class=\"sr-only\"><\/h6>\n<div class=\"text-base my-auto mx-auto pb-10 [--thread-content-margin:--spacing(4)] @[37rem]:[--thread-content-margin:--spacing(6)] @[72rem]:[--thread-content-margin:--spacing(16)] px-(--thread-content-margin)\">\n<div class=\"[--thread-content-max-width:32rem] @[34rem]:[--thread-content-max-width:40rem] @[64rem]:[--thread-content-max-width:48rem] mx-auto flex max-w-(--thread-content-max-width) flex-1 text-base gap-4 md:gap-5 lg:gap-6 group\/turn-messages focus-visible:outline-hidden\" tabindex=\"-1\">\n<div class=\"group\/conversation-turn relative flex w-full min-w-0 flex-col agent-turn\">\n<div class=\"relative flex-col gap-1 md:gap-3\">\n<div class=\"flex max-w-full flex-col grow\">\n<div class=\"min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-5\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"a9cdfe5c-761e-43c9-b658-4f5ba3ab9c59\" data-message-model-slug=\"gpt-4-1-mini\">\n<div class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden first:pt-[3px]\">\n<div class=\"markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full break-words light\">\n<p data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"455\">Rubio also reported that &#8220;Washington expects to secure the transfer of Patriot air defense systems needed by Kyiv, available from several US partners in Europe.&#8221; The US is offering these countries, which are awaiting their deliveries of Patriot systems, to postpone their receipt to prioritize Ukraine. This statement, along with its timing and setting, clearly signaled the White House\u2019s dissatisfaction with Putin\u2019s conduct in the dialogue.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"457\" data-end=\"602\">Of course, it is not guaranteed that these Patriots will be delivered to us, but the announcement itself sent a strong message to Putin.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"604\" data-end=\"944\">Lavrov summarized the conversation with the vague remark, &#8220;There are things that are not commented on.&#8221; The Kremlin\u2019s media managed only to highlight a nervous twitch in Rubio\u2019s right eye, caught on video as he looked at Lavrov across the table. They called it a friendly wink and tried to put on an optimistic face despite the poor outcome.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"946\" data-end=\"1290\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">What does this mean for us in practice? Nothing definitive. However, it may indicate Trump\u2019s strategy to apply both pressure and incentives to Putin. Other statements from both Rubio and Trump suggest a growing consensus that using the war in Ukraine to score a political victory before the 2026 elections will not succeed\u2014Putin will not agree.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t<aside class=\"shortcode-also\" data-title=\"Read also\" data-right>\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/us-to-supply-weapons-to-ukraine-through-nato-trump-announces-new-support-scheme\/\">US to supply weapons to Ukraine through NATO: Trump announces new support scheme<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\n<p>If that\u2019s the case, then what was once seen by the Trump team as a \u201cpromising PR asset\u201d \u2014 the Russia-Ukraine situation \u2014 has now shifted into the category of \u201ca persistent, unpleasant problem for years to come, complicating relations with multiple parties.\u201d This development will likely diminish any prospects of cozying up to Putin at Ukraine\u2019s expense.<\/p>\n<p><em>As a reminder, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on July 10 that during a conversation with Sergei Lavrov<a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/buly-novi-idei-shchodo-ukrainy-rubio-prokomentuvav-zustrich-z-lavrovym\/\">, new ideas were discussed for ending the war in Ukraine<\/a>. At the same time, he added that President Donald Trump is \u201cdisappointed and saddened that the Russian side has not shown more flexibility\u201d to end the conflict.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>In addition, Secretary of State Marco Rubio called the recent suspension of arms supplies to Ukraine <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/lyshe-korotka-tekhnichna-pauza-rubio-poiasnyv-neshchodavnie-prypynennia-postachannia-zbroi\/\">a \u201cshort-term pause\u201d in the arms transfer process<\/a>. According to him, some of the defensive weapons were recently used during Iran\u2019s attack on Israel. Therefore, a pause\u00a0was necessary to account for the available weapons.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Instead, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated that during the meeting, <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/buly-novi-idei-shchodo-ukrainy-rubio-prokomentuvav-zustrich-z-lavrovym\/\">there was a &#8220;substantial and frank exchange of views&#8221;<\/a> on issues such as Ukraine, Iran, Syria, and other global problems.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Also, follow <strong>\u201cPryamyi\u201d<\/strong> on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pryamiy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Facebook<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/prm_ua\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/+rtV4dxYu2_cyNjVi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Telegram<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/pryamiy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Instagram.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><em>\u2022 Materials published in the \u201cOPINIONS\u201d section reflect the opinion of the author of the publication, who bears full responsibility for the accuracy of the information.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><em>\u2022 The editorial staff of prm.ua may not share the opinions expressed in the author&#8217;s material.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><em>\u2022 The owner of the webpage in the \u201cOPINIONS\u201d section is the author of the publication.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Source: Author&#8217;s Facebook page At the Kuala Lumpur meeting between the US Secretary of State and Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov, the Kremlin failed to sway Rubio or capture his interest. The Kremlin tried to create the impression among all concerned that after Putin&#8217;s &#8220;bullshit,&#8221; Lavrov had come up with some new and very good proposals\u2014something [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":57,"featured_media":1259248,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ep_exclude_from_search":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[76871,76872,76893],"class_list":["post-1259294","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news-2","category-news-feed","category-thoughts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1259294","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/57"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1259294"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1259294\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1264093,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1259294\/revisions\/1264093"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1259248"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1259294"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1259294"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}