{"id":1272531,"date":"2025-07-28T13:24:58","date_gmt":"2025-07-28T10:24:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/lie-detector-for-nabu-and-sapo-whats-wrong-with-the-new-initiative-of-the-bankovaya\/"},"modified":"2025-07-28T13:24:58","modified_gmt":"2025-07-28T10:24:58","slug":"lie-detector-for-nabu-and-sapo-whats-wrong-with-the-new-initiative-of-the-bankovaya","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/lie-detector-for-nabu-and-sapo-whats-wrong-with-the-new-initiative-of-the-bankovaya\/","title":{"rendered":"Lie detector for NABU and SAPO: what&#8217;s wrong with the new initiative of the Bankovaya"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>The Verkhovna Rada should adopt the draft law on NABU and SAPO as soon as possible to correct the mistakes made during the previous vote. However, some provisions in the new presidential document will need to be changed, in particular regarding lie detector tests.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p> This opinion <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dTuNl9t6Sc0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">was expressed<\/a> on the air of &#8220;Pryamoy&#8221; by Andriy Magera, an expert at the Center for Political and Legal Reforms.<\/p>\n<p> &#8220;I really hope that on July 31, there will be 226 votes in the Verkhovna Rada hall for the presidential bill, which is far from ideal, but even it should be voted for. If the people&#8217;s deputies do not understand this, unfortunately, it will be worse not only for them, but also for the entire country&#8230; The presidential bill returns the provisions of the Criminal Procedure Code that were there before. But there are some strange things there that should not be. However, I hope that they can be changed in the future,&#8221; said Magera.<\/p>\n<p> The expert called the norm on regular polygraph or &#8220;lie detector&#8221; tests for representatives of anti-corruption bodies one of such &#8220;strange things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> https:\/\/youtu.be\/dTuNl9t6Sc0?t=333<\/p>\n\t\t<aside class=\"shortcode-also\" data-title=\"Read also\" >\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/failed-to-escape-nabu-did-the-authorities-hear-the-voice-of-the-street\/\">Failed to escape NABU: did the authorities hear the voice of the street?<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\n<p> &#8220;For example, the same polygraphs or lie detectors &#8211; people may know the name of these technical devices better. They are not scientifically proven, their effectiveness. Perhaps someone once watched the Soviet film of the 60s &#8220;Resident&#8217;s Mistake&#8221; and believes that a lie detector is something so peculiar, something so undeniable that it establishes the truth. No, it does not. Its effectiveness is approximately at the level of how a fortune teller will spread cards or roll eggs for you. I mean chicken eggs,&#8221; explains Magera.<\/p>\n<p> Therefore, as he emphasizes, the presidential bill should be supported, but in the future it is still necessary to correct the shortcomings that it will have, including the norm on &#8220;lie detectors.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p> &#8220;This norm is already in many current laws, in particular regarding law enforcement agencies, for hiring them and the like. It&#8217;s all already there. And, again, this is a topic of separate hype &#8211; when people do not fully understand that this topic is not scientifically based, is not a panacea for people who have problems with the law from entering the service of law enforcement agencies. Because there are a lot of ways, methods, how to bypass this polygraph and so on,&#8221; the guest noted.<\/p>\n<p> &#8220;I even remember one story when, as a witness in a criminal case, they tried to persuade me to take a polygraph. What did I say? Sorry, I&#8217;m not a guinea pig and I won&#8217;t play your games. Therefore, this is a topic that should really be avoided and not litter Ukrainian legislation with these polygraphs or lie detectors, which have nothing more in their essence than a name,&#8221; summarizes Andriy Magera, an expert at the Center for Political and Legal Reforms.<\/p>\n\t\t<aside class=\"shortcode-also\" data-title=\"Read also\" data-right>\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/independence-of-nabu-and-sapo-just-the-main-thing\/\">NABU and SAPO Independence Under Fire: What\u2019s Really at Stake<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\n<p> Recently, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that anyone with access to state secrets must <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/poverne-povnovazhennia-ta-nezalezhnist-zelenskyy-vnis-do-rady-zakonoproiekt-shchodo-nabu-ta-sap\/\">regularly take a lie detector test<\/a> . According to him, such tests are provided for in a new bill on anti-corruption bodies that the head of state has submitted to the Verkhovna Rada.<\/p>\n<p> The corresponding initiative was voiced against the backdrop of a scandal regarding the adoption by the Rada of draft law No. 12414, which <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/deputaty-pidtrymaly-zakon-pro-pidporiadkovunnia-nabu-i-sap-henprokuroru\/\">significantly limits the powers of<\/a> the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor&#8217;s Office (SAP), effectively subordinating their activities to the Prosecutor General.<\/p>\n<p> The decision <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/yes-sturbovanyy-likvidatsiieiu-nezalezhnosti-antykoruptsiynykh-orhaniv-detali\/\">has raised serious concerns in the European Union<\/a> , which said it would affect the annual assessment of Ukraine&#8217;s progress towards EU membership. <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/zakon-shchodo-nabu-ta-sap-pidryvaie-prohres-borotby-iz-koruptsiieiu-senatory-shakhin-ta-hrem\/\">The US Senate has also expressed concern<\/a> over a law recently passed in Ukraine that it says weakens the independence of anti-corruption institutions by placing them under the jurisdiction of the Prosecutor General.<\/p>\n<p> At the same time, society negatively perceived the actual destruction of anti-corruption bodies. On July 22 and 23, hundreds of people in many cities <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/ni-koruptsii-u-vladi-u-bahatokh-mistakh-ukrainy-prokhodiat-mitynhy-proty-zakonu-shchodo-nabu-ta-sap\/\">of Ukraine took to rallies<\/a> against Law No. 12414.<\/p>\n<p> Subsequently, the President of Ukraine submitted to the Verkhovna Rada <a href=\"https:\/\/prm.ua\/poverne-povnovazhennia-ta-nezalezhnist-zelenskyy-vnis-do-rady-zakonoproiekt-shchodo-nabu-ta-sap\/\">a law on \u201cstrengthening the powers of the NABU and the SAPO\u201d<\/a> . The document stipulates that the Prosecutor General and his deputies do not have the right to give instructions to SAPO prosecutors. The Prosecutor General is also prohibited from influencing the work of NABU detectives.<\/p>\n<p> Also follow <strong>\u201cPryamim\u201d<\/strong> on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pryamiy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Facebook<\/a> , <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/prm_ua\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Twitter<\/a> , <a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/+rtV4dxYu2_cyNjVi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Telegram<\/a> , and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/pryamiy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Instagram.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Verkhovna Rada should adopt the draft law on NABU and SAPO as soon as possible to correct the mistakes made during the previous vote. However, some provisions in the new presidential document will need to be changed, in particular regarding lie detector tests. This opinion was expressed on the air of &#8220;Pryamoy&#8221; by Andriy [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":57,"featured_media":453493,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ep_exclude_from_search":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[76871,76872,76885],"class_list":["post-1272531","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news-2","category-news-feed","category-policy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1272531","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/57"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1272531"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1272531\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/453493"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1272531"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/prm.ua\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1272531"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}